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Transcript - Chat Session, April 1, 2008 @
6:00 pm
Jason Smith, Flight Dynamics/Flight Control
<Jason Smith - NASA> Hi everyone.
<Brian Siela> Hello!
<Jason Smith - NASA> I will start with just a word or two about
myself.
<Jason Smith - NASA> I work here at NASA in the Mission control
center.
<Jason Smith - NASA> I work in the Flight Dynamics area.
<Jason Smith - NASA> This means that my group is responsible for
planning where the shuttle is going.
<Jason Smith - NASA> We plan all the burns to make sure that the
shuttle gets to dock with the space station.
<Jason Smith - NASA> And we plan how it will get back to the
ground safely.
<Jason Smith - NASA> On a personal note, I grew up in NJ, went to
school at BYU and MIT and have 3 daughters.
<Jason Smith - NASA> If you have any questions, I will try my best
to answer them. I appologize if I am slow.
<Marah Perez> hi!
<Tehreem Bilal> what goes into planning burns?
<Jason Smith - NASA> First we have to know where the shuttle is.
<Jason Smith - NASA> We do this using tracking stations located
around the world, as well as some satellites in orbit.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Then, we have computer programs which
help us figure out where we need to go.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Basically, we tell it where we want to be and
when we want to be there, and the computer crunches the numbers
to tell us how to get there.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Other questions?
<Larry Hoelscher> How does a burn actually propel the shuttle in
space?
<Jason Smith - NASA> In order to change your location in orbit, you
must change your velocity.
<Jason Smith - NASA> This is done using thrusters. These are
basically jet engines. They use very explosive chemicals which,
when combined create a controlled explosion.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The hot gases are forced through a jet. One
of Newton's laws is that for each action there is an opposite
reaction.
<Jason Smith - NASA> So, when the gas come out the back of the
jet, the shuttle is propelled forward.
<Tehreem Bilal> what kind of chemicals are used?
<Jason Smith - NASA> It is actually very similar to rockets on the
ground.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Monomethal hydrozene and nitrogene
tetroxhyde - those spellings are a guess :)
<Larry Hoelscher> But on ground there air particles to push against,
isn't space almost a vacuum?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Actually, I think it is hydrazene
<Jason Smith - NASA> Larry, space is a vacuum. But objects in orbit
are simply in free fall around the Earth.
<Marah Perez> space still has air particles which helps the push,
right?
Marah Perez> space still has air particles which helps the push,
right?
<Jason Smith - NASA> If you ever see astronauts in video from
space, when they push off the wall with their arms, they float the
opposite direction.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The same is true in a larger sense for the
whole vehicle. When a jet fires one direction, the vehicle moves the
other direction.
<Tehreem Bilal> is there a reason those particular chemicals are
used? is the reaction between them more powerful than between
other combinations of chemicals?
<Marah Perez> so if you want to move the vehicle left, you have to
move it right? is that what your saying Mr. Smith?
<Jason Smith - NASA> The main reason is that those particular
chemicals will combust simply by coming into contact with each
other.
<Jason Smith - NASA> So, the only thing the system has to do is
open a valve. In your car, you need fuel and oxygen, but you also
need a spark plug to start the explosion inside the engine.
<Jason Smith - NASA> On the shuttle, we want to keep things very
simple so that we have as little chance as possible for things to
break.
<Tehreem Bilal> dont other chemicals react the same way?
<Jason Smith - NASA> I will stop here by saying that I am not a
propellant expert. There are other considerations such as weight,
and specific impulse, but I will not pretend to be an expert
<Marah Perez> what kind of schooling did you have to have to be
where you are now Mr. Smith?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Marah - yes, to move the vehicle to the left,
we would have to push on the right side of the vehicle. We would
do this by firing jets on the right side.
<Marah Perez> kool
<Larry Hoelscher> Is there a proper angle for re-entry, or does it
depend on the correlation of the shuttle to the earth?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Marah - The minimum requirement is a four
year degree in a science or engineering discipline.
<Jason Smith - NASA> I personally studied mechanical engineering
as an undergraduate. I also did a masters degree in aeronautics and
astronautics.
<Jason Smith - NASA> However, the people I work with in Mission
Control have a wide variety of engineering and science
backgrounds, so it really depends on your interests.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Larry - Good question. As you suspect, the
angle at reentry is very important.
<Jason Smith - NASA> If it is too steep, heat will build up too quickly
and the shuttle could burn up.
<Jason Smith - NASA> If it is too shallow, the shuttle could skip out
of the atmosphere and would not re-enter. Or would re-enter in the
wrong location.
<Marah Perez> Do you also have to have any experience to go along
with your degrees?
<Jason Smith - NASA> The actual angle is dependent on the mission
and it calculated using computers.
<Larry Hoelscher> Thanks
<Jason Smith - NASA> Marah - I think if you are asking about prior
full-time work experience, it is not technically a requirement, but it
could help.
<Tehreem Bilal> how long have you been working with nasa?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Also, many people start out working as
co-ops while they are still in college.
<Marah Perez> ok..kool!
<Jason Smith - NASA> Although I did not do this, I know a lot of
people who did. I am sure you will have a chance to learn more
about the co-op program this summer.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Tehreem - I have been here for four years.
<Marah Perez> Great!
<Jason Smith - NASA> Other questions. Did I miss someone's
question above?
<Tehreem Bilal> what else do you as flight control?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Good question. I have basically three parts to
my job.
<Jason Smith - NASA> First, when the shuttle is actually flying, we
have to support in Mission Control 24/7.
<Jason Smith - NASA> We do this basically as shift work.
<Jason Smith - NASA> So, we have 3 teams of people who work 8
hours each. The bad news is that this means I may have to work
during the night.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The good news is, it is a lot of fun to see the
shuttle fly. They do some really amazing things in space, particularly
now as they are assembling the space station.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The second part of my job is simulations.
<Jason Smith - NASA> This happens when the shuttle is not flying.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Simulations are like practice.
<Marah Perez> like under water simulation! lol
<Jason Smith - NASA> We sit in the control center, and folks in
other rooms use computers to pretend that the shuttle is flying.
<Jason Smith - NASA> They can also pretend that things break. The
flight control team then has to respond to fix the problem
<Marah Perez> what kind of schooling did you have to have to be
where you are now Mr. Smith?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Marah - yes, to move the vehicle to the left,
we would have to push on the right side of the vehicle. We would
do this by firing jets on the right side.
<Marah Perez> kool
<Larry Hoelscher> Is there a proper angle for re-entry, or does it
depend on the correlation of the shuttle to the earth?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Marah - The minimum requirement is a four
year degree in a science or engineering discipline.
<Jason Smith - NASA> I personally studied mechanical engineering
as an undergraduate. I also did a masters degree in aeronautics and
astronautics.
<Jason Smith - NASA> However, the people I work with in Mission
Control have a wide variety of engineering and science
backgrounds, so it really depends on your interests.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Larry - Good question. As you suspect, the
angle at reentry is very important.
<Jason Smith - NASA> If it is too steep, heat will build up too quickly
and the shuttle could burn up.
<Jason Smith - NASA> If it is too shallow, the shuttle could skip out
of the atmosphere and would not re-enter. Or would re-enter in the
wrong location.
<Marah Perez> Do you also have to have any experience to go along
with your degrees?
<Jason Smith - NASA> The actual angle is dependent on the mission
and it calculated using computers.
<Larry Hoelscher> Thanks
<Jason Smith - NASA> Marah - I think if you are asking about prior
full-time work experience, it is not technically a requirement, but it
could help.
<Tehreem Bilal> how long have you been working with nasa?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Also, many people start out working as
co-ops while they are still in college.
<Marah Perez> ok..kool!
<Jason Smith - NASA> Although I did not do this, I know a lot of
people who did. I am sure you will have a chance to learn more
about the co-op program this summer.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Tehreem - I have been here for four years.
<Marah Perez> Great!
<Jason Smith - NASA> Other questions. Did I miss someone's
question above?
<Tehreem Bilal> what else do you as flight control?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Good question. I have basically three parts to
my job.
<Jason Smith - NASA> First, when the shuttle is actually flying, we
have to support in Mission Control 24/7.
<Jason Smith - NASA> We do this basically as shift work.
<Jason Smith - NASA> So, we have 3 teams of people who work 8
hours each. The bad news is that this means I may have to work
during the night.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The good news is, it is a lot of fun to see the
shuttle fly. They do some really amazing things in space, particularly
now as they are assembling the space station.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The second part of my job is simulations.
<Jason Smith - NASA> This happens when the shuttle is not flying.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Simulations are like practice.
<Marah Perez> like under water simulation! lol
<Jason Smith - NASA> We sit in the control center, and folks in
other rooms use computers to pretend that the shuttle is flying.
<Jason Smith - NASA> They can also pretend that things break. The
flight control team then has to respond to fix the problem
<Marah Perez> That must be funny to see..that reminds me of owen
wilson goes into the control room on Armagedon
<Tehreem Bilal> what kind of problems do you come across?
<Jason Smith - NASA> These simulations can be very difficult, as
the people training us work hard to make us think.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The good news is that we can learn a lot
during these events, but the bad news is that they can be very
stressful.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The third part of my job is office work.
<Jason Smith - NASA> This is when we do not have a mission or a
simulation that is going on.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Office work includes glamourous things like
answering email, attending meetings, and writing reports.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The good news is that every once in a while,
I can do other fun stuff, like chatting with all of you.
<Tehreem Bilal> o-la-la! :)
<Marah Perez> lol!
<Jason Smith - NASA> Tehreem - the list is endless.
<Jason Smith - NASA> There can be very minor trivial problems, like
a sensor that fails.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Or there can be very serious problems, like a
fire or loss of cabin pressure.
<Jason Smith - NASA> The point is to train the team to work through
whatever possible thing could happen during a real mission.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Fortunately, during most missions, nothing
major goes wrong.
<Jason Smith - NASA> But every once in a while the flight
controllers are asked to work a big problem, and they need to be
prepared if that time comes.
<Tehreem Bilal> cool
<Jason Smith - NASA> Anything else?
<Tehreem Bilal> even with the boring stuff, do you enjoy what you
do?
<Jason Smith - NASA> Tehreem - I consider myself very lucky in
that I can honestly say that I love my job.
<Jason Smith - NASA> Unfortunately, many people are not so lucky.
<Marah Perez> Your luck is similar to our luck sir...
<Tehreem Bilal> yup
<Jason Smith - NASA> I am a big believer that you must love what
you do. No amount of money can compensate for not liking your
job.
<Marah Perez> If you do something you don't enjoy, you will waste
your life
> We have about 8 minutes left on this session. Any last questions?
<Tehreem Bilal> i'm good. thanks so much for your time Mr. Smith!
<Marah Perez> Thanks Muchos!
> Our next guest should be here in just a minute. Does anyone have
any questions about the program?
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